User talk:Zakbos

Re: Categories

• i'm back again (Tip!)
• I assume that you have seen the Categories page and the other topics listed there. So do you agree that a subject like H.C.E. benefits from it's Category listing? If so, then please, read no further.
• I think the purpose was to utilize the Category function for extra-cirricular study on the subjects listed there precisely by making this node available to explore all the other occurances. Of course, most of these subjects do contain some similar information in their specific Page which may be repeated in their Category:Subject page. But such a sensitive editor could easily repair this.
• To put a list of appearances at the first definition page may require a comprehensive (perhaps an unhuman omniscient) understanding of every page in this WakeWiki. Then how would the author of a later page, which could actually be a previously created subject, know that this even exists if it isn't listed on something like the Category page?
• Since Joyce chose to spell words differently (Kate, Kathe, etc), it also creates this opportunity for repetitive information when it isn't categorized.
• Creating a new Category for all recurrences (do you mean like a Category:Recurrances:Kate page?) sounds like just putting a smaller envelope inside a bigger one, making the node lie underneath one more layer of aggregate. Is that what you meant?
• Superfluous it may be, trivial it may become, but i would like to see us try your idea for a template for "Other Appearances". If this could be simple for an author/editor to attach, then would the next occurance of a subject to be created automatically update the previous ones? vice versa?

LETS TRY IT OUT! Here's my challenge: "Thomas A Beckett and Lawrence O' Toole"

• These two characters recur often and various enough for us. There isn't a "Category" page at the moment. If you could link the occurances in a template, show us how it could work.

Thanks for the Tip!

7/24/06

• Hullo, Tip, and thanks for the welcome.
• It was my thinking that the Category doesn't do much to aggregate content helpfully. The list of appearances for recurruring characters should be included at the definition page of the character. This puts the relevant information at the right level of analysis. The alternative is to indicate, by Categorization, that there are other appearances; the user would then have to visit the category page and travel back and forth from that node to explore the other appearances. That's a superfluous step that I don't think is beneficial. While it's helpful to track multiple appearances of characters, objects, tropes, and themes, I'd place this information on the page.
• What might make sense is to create a new Category for recurrences, or, several, for recurring characters, recurring images, etc.
• What do you think of a template for "Other Appearances" to be placed at the bottom of the page, essentially a list of page numbers?

7/24/06 Greetings Zakbos, and welcome to the wiki! This is User:Tip, and I wanted to ask you, why did you delete the Category:Kate page? A short time ago, User:Pemberton began using the Categories to organize characters, phrases, numbers, etc. that were frequently used throughout the Wake. The Categories are a good way for finding the other places that these characters appear. Since "Kate" is a recurring name and character of the Finnegan household, I created the category so that all of her appearances could be tracked in one place. I'm just curious as to why she was removed. Thanks, Tip.